Maximising traction in FWD applications
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Re: Maximising traction in FWD applications
Will, that not also aid traction too?Toad wrote:Out of interest, with lots of power, and lots of traction, what can be done to stregnthen components like wishbones and subframe mounting points?
I know stuff can be seam welded, but is that enough?
Re: Maximising traction in FWD applications
I partially welded my wishbones and haven't had any issues. Even though most Mk 2's dont have the 2 extra rear bolts that corrados have i haven't had any subframe issues. Even after 4 years of dragging it on slicks! Amazing really.
James H- .:Standard:.
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Re: Maximising traction in FWD applications
I think VR6 wishbones are already seam welded? Can't tell for all the rust on them
I've seam welded my subframe though, along the seams under the steering rack and I also seam welded both rear engine mount cups as I've heard stories of them shearing off. I say "I" welded, but read that as Vince at stealth did, LOL! It's the kind of stuff he used to do when prepping the Vento cup challenge cars.
I've seam welded my subframe though, along the seams under the steering rack and I also seam welded both rear engine mount cups as I've heard stories of them shearing off. I say "I" welded, but read that as Vince at stealth did, LOL! It's the kind of stuff he used to do when prepping the Vento cup challenge cars.
kevhaywire- .:Stroked:.
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Gonna throw new wishbones into my car, and whip the subframes out for a bit of shotblasting and repainting action, so I might take the opportunity to stiffen/repair any bits before filing any cavities with waxoyl.
Toad- .:Mod:.
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Re: Maximising traction in FWD applications
I'm using a Peloquin in my hybrid G60/VR6 box, and so far, it has proved reliable and predictable in its handling (yet to try it on ice though). Great little mod even if running standard engine setups, and really does improve handling
jmc- .:Bored:.
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Re: Maximising traction in FWD applications
A friend of mine has just fitted a 20vT conversion to his mk2 golf,with a peloquin LSD.
He is alarmed at the amount of torque steer when the tyres bite.
He said that it is totally unpredictable too.Sometimes it will hook up and he'll go forward as planned,but others times he might shoot left or right.
He said it is fun but a bit disconcerting.
I imagine that will get old quite quickly.
His brother runs a similar engine setup but his wheels just spin when trying to launch to hard as he dosn't have an LSD.
Is this typical of peoples experiences with LSD technology or is he just stamping the pedal too hard?
He is alarmed at the amount of torque steer when the tyres bite.
He said that it is totally unpredictable too.Sometimes it will hook up and he'll go forward as planned,but others times he might shoot left or right.
He said it is fun but a bit disconcerting.
I imagine that will get old quite quickly.
His brother runs a similar engine setup but his wheels just spin when trying to launch to hard as he dosn't have an LSD.
Is this typical of peoples experiences with LSD technology or is he just stamping the pedal too hard?
dirtytorque- .:Charged:.
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Re: Maximising traction in FWD applications
Has he had the front end geometry set up?
How much power and what wheels/tyres is he running?
How much power and what wheels/tyres is he running?
James H- .:Standard:.
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Location : Whittlesey, Cambs
Re: Maximising traction in FWD applications
All I know is that the tuner advertised the engine work at aprox 270 bhp,so in this ball park.
He didn't know how much torque he was running.
He's running 195/40/16's i think,not sure what make.
I'll try and find out a bit more,in regards to the geometry etc.
He didn't know how much torque he was running.
He's running 195/40/16's i think,not sure what make.
I'll try and find out a bit more,in regards to the geometry etc.
dirtytorque- .:Charged:.
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Re: Maximising traction in FWD applications
dirtytorque wrote:He is alarmed at the amount of torque steer when the tyres bite.
He said that it is totally unpredictable too.Sometimes it will hook up and he'll go forward as planned,but others times he might shoot left or right.
Is this typical of peoples experiences with LSD technology or is he just stamping the pedal too hard?
Does it do it on dead flat roads?
Mine's like that if I nail it on rough, uneven country roads. The car tends to naturally pull in the direction of the road slope, but the diff makes it worse.
Worn top mounts can cause that to an extent and geometry that's not quite right.
kevhaywire- .:Stroked:.
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i'll speak to him at the weekend.
Its interesting to here peoples real world experiences with this technology,as previously all I have heard are the benefits of LSD's n the like.
i'll speak to him at the weekend.
Its interesting to here peoples real world experiences with this technology,as previously all I have heard are the benefits of LSD's n the like.
dirtytorque- .:Charged:.
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Yep, people only ever mention the good things on forums
kevhaywire- .:Stroked:.
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Re: Maximising traction in FWD applications
I personally fitted a Peloquin diff. and am very satisfied
with it,yeah every now and then you get the odd twitch.
I'll do a DIY write-up on the actual installation when i've got
5mins.
with it,yeah every now and then you get the odd twitch.
I'll do a DIY write-up on the actual installation when i've got
5mins.
VEEDUBBED- .:Cammed:.
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Re: Maximising traction in FWD applications
That would be good mateVEEDUBBED wrote:I'll do a DIY write-up on the actual installation when i've got 5mins.
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