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Cams etc for FI 16v applications.

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Post by dirtytorque Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:27 am

Any ideas?
I saw someone ask this very question of CF and it has been something I have been considering also.
For instance the standard KR cams.Do these make good cams ona boosted application?
I have read that a vernier is a must?!??!?
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Post by mrbeige Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:29 am

ABF cams are supposed to be the optimum 'standard' cam for FI
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Post by dirtytorque Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:40 am

Can you amplify your statement ?
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just like to know why before I had off down to the scrappies.
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Post by mrbeige Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:57 am

ABF and KR camshafts are similar with about 254° duration but ABF camshafts have higher lift so can potentially give better cylinder filling (10,76int/10,73exh mm for the ABF and only 9,2int/10,21exh mm for the KR)
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Post by JNLRacing Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:50 am

You'll find the ABF's also have a milder overlap due to emisions over the KR's so again it will aid FI slightly better.

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Post by Flusted Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:32 am

Yah thats what i was guna say, less overlap, more boost?
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Post by Toad Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:40 am

Less wasted boost might be a better way to put it. But yeah.
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Post by VEEDUBBED Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:33 am

I'm running a modded exhaust cam but to be honest
i can't feel bugger all difference compared to the normal
KR jobbie...

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Post by dirtytorque Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:36 am

I am beginning to think that cams are a "black art".
In some ways it feels like robbing peter to pay paul,i.e taking torque from one area to get more in another. Neutral
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Post by junkie Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:26 pm

Its just all about matching the cam to the engine spec and also what you want from the engine, power target, power range etc, both go hand in hand.
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Post by mrbeige Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:59 pm

VEEDUBBED wrote:I'm running a modded exhaust cam but to be honest
i can't feel bugger all difference compared to the normal
KR jobbie...
That extra bit of lift isn't gaining you anything then? Is it the same duration as the normal inlet though?
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Post by Flusted Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:39 am

its it the case that usually is with the modded exhaust cam trick where the sprocket hasnt been corrected for the 5.7 degree difference?

My standard except a 4 branch and proper modded zorst cam 1.8 made 163bhp on rollers at stealth
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Post by VEEDUBBED Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:07 am

I aligned my cam in a spare cyl. head so 99% it's timed
up ok,i did'nt pay nowt for it so i'll keep it.

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Post by Flusted Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:28 am

so did you have a new keyway cut in the chainwheel or an adjustable chainwheel?
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Post by JNLRacing Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:19 pm

you can get away with flipping the pulley over and remarking TDC a lot easier than machining a new keyway and gauranteed to be a 100% correct.

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Post by Flusted Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:14 pm

REally? i did wonder that when we started doing them. I had a new keyway cut and it allowed all the marks to line up and gave good power from 2k
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Post by boost panda Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:22 am

Rob, not sure if you've researched these but i've heard a lot of good things mainly from VWVortex about Autotech FI cam grinds for 16v. Whether this is just one person who likes them and another 7000 agreeing I don't know (my FI cam research was all done last summer, and as you know it's all windowshopping at the moment!) but might be worth getting some tech specs on their cams if you can?
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