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Post by junkie Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:55 pm

Toad wrote:
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Toad wrote:Oooops.

Was it just dieseling on it's own oil then?
I the head gasket goes on a diesel and its the oil that gets in the cylinder, it will run on it's own with no diesel pirat

Yeah I thought that was called deiseling?

Our TD5 Landrover had its turbot let go, and took itself up to redline very quickly after. Luckily they managed to stall it in time.

There was no way i was been anywhere near the van on a motorway with loads of gas in it revving its **** off smoking like hell, its not my van so to be honest i did not care if it went totally lol.
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Post by junkie Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:46 am

mrbeige wrote:Any progress Si?

Why thanks for asking again Stu, i can now confirm yes there is progress and i have drove it today for the 1st time since March, all i can say is its frighteningly sick in the head.
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Post by dirtytorque Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:20 am

you hav obviously been quitely working away at it.
Well done for getting it moving under its own steam.
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Post by mrbeige Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:30 pm

junkie wrote:
mrbeige wrote:Any progress Si?

Why thanks for asking again Stu, i can now confirm yes there is progress and i have drove it today for the 1st time since March, all i can say is its frighteningly sick in the head.
Did I say something? lol

Good to hear it's back on the road. So what's changed then? Manifold wasn't it?
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Post by James H Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:11 pm

Well done mate!
Good work
Everything ok?
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Post by junkie Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:46 pm

dirtytorque wrote:you hav obviously been quitely working away at it.
Well done for getting it moving under its own steam.

Yes quietly plodding on with it, had a couple of set backs but got there in the end thank god.
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Post by junkie Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:49 pm

mrbeige wrote:
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mrbeige wrote:Any progress Si?

Why thanks for asking again Stu, i can now confirm yes there is progress and i have drove it today for the 1st time since March, all i can say is its frighteningly sick in the head.
Did I say something? lol

Good to hear it's back on the road. So what's changed then? Manifold wasn't it?

Yes a simple manifold involved a head off job to do and lots of patience.

Its not exactly back on the road still some dodgy electrics to sort out then MOT tima again and tax and insurance. Hoping before christmas day though.
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Post by junkie Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:51 pm

James H wrote:Well done mate!
Good work
Everything ok?

Thanks mate, without you it would still be broken in the garage, thanks for all the advice along the way.

I think so, only issue was the water temp warning light i think it is on the dash flashing but it was as per normal operating parameters so need to look into that. Any ideas?
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Post by junkie Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:52 am

Ok everything is fixed, MOT soon enough.

Soooo happy right now.
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Post by junkie Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:42 am

Just took the Mrs out in it and she was scared, screaming for me to slow down hahahahahahahaha, she said its sick and doesnt think i should put it back on the road. Oh dear.
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Post by Toad Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:43 am

Hahahahaha.

Bit like how I felt in the back of it. Lol.
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Post by junkie Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:57 am

Thought what happened in the back stayed in the back.......but whilst its out in the open yea i did make you scream lol
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Post by Toad Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:03 am

Lol. Me and Rob. Smile
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Post by dirtytorque Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:07 am

Toad wrote:Lol. Me and Rob. Smile
scary.
We had to fight the impulse to hold hands.
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Post by Toad Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:08 am

So... If there's another rolling road day this spring. Will you make it along?
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Post by junkie Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:14 am

I am definately hoping to so long as i dont break it again, you know my track record with it.

Not really bothered anymore about numbers but would be good to get a comparison from another rolling road as its only ever been on Jabba's, numbers have always gone up, but more importantly its always got quicker and quicker.

One thing i never know thinking about it, the graphs i got, they are probably the guesstimated flywheel figures and not the wheel figure.

What do you get from stealth?

Aaand if you look at my RR print out on page 1 i know you prob cant see all the settings that can be changed, ie fiddle the final output but the air temp and atmospheric pressure, do the look good or like somebody has been tweaking for a better number?
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Post by dirtytorque Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:22 am

the top graph seems to be your crank figure of 350 and your bottom one of 300 @ the wheels...

Am i reading that right???
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Post by junkie Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:26 am

No your not hold on.
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Post by junkie Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:28 am

Right then i have just quickly converted the Nm figure to torque, to show the actual torque figures as in my eyes it is a good torque curve but the graph makes it look short and peaky when its down to the torque peaking so high in the 1st place.

As can be seen i have a minimum of 260lb/ft between 3000rpm > 6000rpm, now at 2500rpm its 166lb/ft which is the same as a G Lader peak torque and quite close to a pullied, chipped and flowed charger, and right on the limiter its still doing more than the previously mentioned set up. For the torque to double in 1000rpm between 2500rpm > 3500rpm as it comes on boost you can imagine the problems i have with traction in 1st and 2nd Smile

RPM = lb/ft
2500 = 166
3000 = 258
3500 = 317
4000 = 332
4500 = 339
5000 = 317
5500 = 291
6000 = 258
6500 = 239

On the 2 seperate graphs with red lines they are the same dyno run from my engine, just shows you how different they can look to the eye as in the 2nd graph it looks like it has more torque for longer compared to the 1st graph even though they are identical runs.

So again Green line is torque, Black line is BHP

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Post by junkie Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:29 am

The 2 graphs on page 1 are the same graph but the blue lines are a different car, a 20VT IHI VF22 @ 1 bar
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Post by ctwg60 Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:48 am

If your interested in finding how your car compares to other with regards to the wheel torque. Take it over to awesome-gti near Manchester. Then you can see how it compares to all the other cars that have been on there rollers and RR days via the website. It will give you a much better idea of it's real world figures. Cost you about £60.

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Post by junkie Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:40 pm

Cheers Chris, if there is a RR day then i may or when you going next might have to bob along then.
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Post by mrbeige Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:44 pm

junkie wrote:<SNIP> For the torque to double in 1000rpm between 2500rpm > 3500rpm as it comes on boost you can imagine the problems i have with traction in 1st and 2nd Smile

Hmmm, do you think something a little bigger might make the power delivery a little more progressive, or do you think the cylinder head is reaching the maximum flow it can achieve higher up the rev range?
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Post by ctwg60 Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:48 pm

Yeah I'll let you know. It would be good if a Corrado rolling road day could be arranged for us northerners, it would be very cool for us all to have numbers up on the awesome website. We need a CF Mod though to get behind it or it won't happen and I think they are all southerners! Laughing

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Post by junkie Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:48 pm

Do you mean a bigger turbot? Yes but then as it comes on boost and ramps the power up steeply i will have the same problem just further up the rev range + not much room to install another turbo behind there unless i go cross flow and/or external wastegate, already have the largest VF series turbot lol.

Not sure what you mean regarding the head flow?
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