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Post by dirtytorque on Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:12 am

testing..

ripped tem MS loom to implement something more permanent and safe.
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Old wiring route.
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I'm going to take the wires through some holes I found in the firewall underneath the waterbottle area.
This way the majority of the MS cables will come through on the passenger side away from all the other electrical wiring near the fuse box.
Does anyone know where I can buy some rubber grommets for these holes so i can pass electrical cable through there safely?

Holes in question.

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I have fed the cable from the wideband cable down drivers side hole.You can see the wires for it hear along with the two wires that feed into my fuse box.
The only connections that I have ran to/from the fuse box was a switched 12 volt feed and also pin 85 of the fuel pump relay so that MS can turn the fuel pump on.
These are the blue and white wires that you see in the footwell.The other loose wires are from the LC-1

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I then used this fuese box to distribute fused 12 volts to the things that needed it.i.e isv,fuel rail,hall sender,megasquirt & wideband.

I need to find a nice place for this to live.I may put it inside the cabin.Not decided yet.
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So not really that much work.Should have a working loom by the end of this week installed to a higher standard than before.
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Post by mrbeige on Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:03 am

Good work so far dude. What fuse box is that? Could you install it by the battery like they do in more recent VWs?

Way back, when I wanted a 16v G60, I had quite a lengthy chat with JMR on the phone, and one of the things he said was about mounting the alternator and which one to use and he suggested a Diahatsu(sp?) one. I'm pretty sure he said off a Charade, it's smaller than a standard one but is still enough output. Might be worth looking into, as it might be a better solution to cutting the rad support...

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Post by dirtytorque on Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:25 am

mrbeige wrote:Good work so far dude. What fuse box is that? Could you install it by the battery like they do in more recent VWs?

Hi,the fuse box is from a nissan micra of all things.
I'll consider the placing it by the battery.I guess it would be nice and tucked away there.

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Way back, when I wanted a 16v G60, I had quite a lengthy chat with JMR on the phone, and one of the things he said was about mounting the alternator and which one to use and he suggested a Diahatsu(sp?) one. I'm pretty sure he said off a Charade, it's smaller than a standard one but is still enough output. Might be worth looking into, as it might be a better solution to cutting the rad support...

good info thanks.
I'll look into that now.Really don't want to have to get too radical with the rad support.
Good Job
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Post by dirtytorque on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:14 am

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Post by ctwg60 on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:16 am

Oooh Nice! Motivational! Wink

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Post by dirtytorque on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:18 am

ctwg60 wrote:Oooh Nice! Motivational! Wink

yup,i've got a woody for it now.
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Post by Toad on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:27 am

Looks good Rob. Smile
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Post by dirtytorque on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:37 am

thanks.
On the plus side on the underside it has a couple of fittings for vacuum,and it looks like they can be screwed in too so i can replace them with different size fittings if need be.
I'll use the ISV on one of these.
I was thinking of using the second vac port on the back of the g60 TB for the fuel pressure regulator.I should get a good MAP pressure reading from this one should I not?

btw on the pic below what function does the vac pipe with the yellow bit carry out?
anyone?
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Post by Toad on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:45 am

is that the vaccum pipe take off for the brake servo? and the yellow bit is a one way valve?
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Post by dirtytorque on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:51 am

Toad wrote:is that the vaccum pipe take off for the brake servo? and the yellow bit is a one way valve?

ok,so it needs to be incorporated into the new setup!?!

How does it all work,i mean in terms of the break servo using vacuum?? scratch
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Post by Toad on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:58 am

Yeah, unless you like the taste of walls and the rear bumpers of cars. Lol.

I believe that you have two chambers in the servo, both connected to the vaccum and with a rubber diaphram between them. The pedal and master cylinder are connected to the diaphram.

When you put your foot on the pedal, the vaccum is shut off from one side, and atmospheric pressure applied to it, this causes the diaphram, and therefore, the master cylinder to move.

I think this is right anyway. Might have agoogle to see if I'm correct now.
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Post by dirtytorque on Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:04 am

Toad wrote:Yeah, unless you like the taste of walls and the rear bumpers of cars. Lol.

No walls and bumper in the cabin make me feel sad.
And that explains why when it blew off once my braking was somewhat compromised.Embarassed
Thanks,looks like that second vac point on the manni will be used for that then. Surprised
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Post by junkie on Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:35 am

The bit you have circled is where my MAP sensor gets its reading from rob.
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Post by dirtytorque on Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:43 am

junkie wrote:The bit you have circled is where my MAP sensor gets its reading from rob.

Cheers Simon I think i'll use that point for the fpr feed.
I'll take the MAP from the standard g60 point on the throttle. Smile

Sorted. Cool
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Post by mrbeige on Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:16 pm

Is that a modified S2 manifold or one of those RPM jobbies?

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Post by dirtytorque on Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:44 am

its from germany,not sure who manufactures it.
I don't think its an s2 manni.
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Post by mrbeige on Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:32 am

Looks similar to the inlet Dec has on his turbot. Was it expensive, and is it specifically for the G?

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Post by dirtytorque on Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:01 am

mrbeige wrote:Looks similar to the inlet Dec has on his turbot. Was it expensive, and is it specifically for the G?

it was fairly expensive actually £260 Shocked .Impulse buy. Although I have recovered alot of the money by selling the rocco manni and the elbow to clear the dizzy.

I was hoping to use the 1.8t fuel rail but the mounting holes don't line up.
So I may have to buy their own custom fuel rail aswell. Rolling Eyes

I do like the look of it though.
I'm going to go and have another look at it to see if i can mod the 1.8t rail to fit.
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Post by ctwg60 on Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:24 am

linky?

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Post by mrbeige on Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:31 am

dirtytorque wrote:I was hoping to use the 1.8t fuel rail but the mounting holes don't line up.
So I may have to buy their own custom fuel rail aswell. Rolling Eyes

I do like the look of it though.
I'm going to go and have another look at it to see if i can mod the 1.8t rail to fit.
Could you not make your own? IIRC James bought some extruded alloy fuel rail blank, that you just drill holes into for injectors. I'll see if I can find a link to the company that sells it...

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Post by Toad on Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:35 am

Do speedflow sell it?
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Post by ctwg60 on Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:36 am

3 bar is quite a high pressure for a push fit o-ring seal I wouldn't like to make one myself considering the consequences of getting it wrong! Sad

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Post by mrbeige on Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:38 am

Toad wrote:Do speedflow sell it?
Nah, don't think so, but I found the from a quick search that DT sell the AeroMotive stuff the cheapest..

Fuel Rail Extrusion

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Post by junkie on Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:43 am

Need more pics of the manifold Rob, they look awesome the S2 style.
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Post by dirtytorque on Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:09 am

I agree junkie,I think they look more business like.
I am happy to build the rest of my install around it.Even if it has thrown up a headache.
I really should of just bought the fuel rail that comes with it at the time.I wasn't thinking.They don't have any left at the mo now Crying or Very sad
This is the companys promotional pic.

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as you can see the intended fuel rail is screwed in place on the manifold ensuring a good seal under pressure.
This is obviously ideal.As intimated by ctw I don't want to be worrying about fuel blasting over a hot supercharged bay.

Again thanks for the link Stu .If i can't get the above mentioned fuel rail i may have to go down that route.Any pics floating about of jame's setup?
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